lonniereeder wrote:RickStep wrote:I have been of the opinion since the 1980/1990 time frame that 80/90% of commercial programmers "need their fingers broken".
Clearly the group here ARE working very diligently trying to push the limits forward AFTER Marvel decided NOT to release the driver source code.
There is WAY TOO MUCH crap software in the market place; due to individuals AND companies that don't understand QUALITY.
When I worked in the medical electronics industry as late as the early 2000's; it was common knowledge that for every hour of programming it required 10 hours of testing.
Today for every hour of programming; software is lucky if it gets 5 minutes of testing; and WE wonder why software mostly does NOT WORK. Microsoft, Apple etc. are at the top of the list!
RickStep
I really don't like to make these kinds of posts, but I think I speak for a few members here, if not I will stand on my own. If you are having trouble with forum software, sorry. It is working for the greater percentage of us. In case you don't understand open source, it is just that open free for people to change, modify, play with, and do what ever their hearts desires with it. And most if not all of the developers here are doing it free and sharing it with the rest of us. That is awesome!!!! Thank you to all of you for sharing your talents. So most of what you see is donated and some of it is free as maybe this forum, I am not sure. So quit complaining about the forum software, and please quit posting the crap messages.
I personally resent your threats of breaking fingers of commercial programmers, some of us on here are that commercial programmers. I am one of those commercial programmers, I learned to program in assembly language and FORTRAN, back when memory/hard disk was a premium and your code had to fit into a very tiny little space. But I could a lot with both of those languages together, I could control printers, plotters and do some wonderful things with them. I enjoyed playing with registers and such..... Ah the memories.... But I digress off my point. My point is, every since your first post you have done nothing but complain and grip, and now you are demanding that software be repaired on a site that is being used. You indicated your programming skills is in windows, well this is windows... Why don't you fix it.
My final comment, if you are not going help by reporting errors, testing, or just be a sideline cheerleader to see this grow, mature and become a workable solution and you just want to spew complaints, please quit posting. Open source is not the place for you. I just know I am tired of hearing your complaints/crap such.
Later,
Software is the most difficult to test and debug.
Our school systems have primary grade pupils and secondary grade students writing programs. Do they work; YES. Do they follow any standard; NO. If posted online for others to use securely; NO.
The grade school pupils & higher grade students can't use carpentry tools, can't cook, can't fix a car, can't design an electronic circuit; BUT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM has taught them the are SOFTWARE PROGRAMMERS.
The problem is; IF some of these "kids"; many of these kids that get a university degree in software engineering; HOW do you break them of really bad programming habits.
Most "kids" that learn to program in public school systems like it so much that they produce programs today (aps) for smartphones & tables etc. and despite their university degree NEVER get away from CRAP programming.
It is way easier to teach someone how to program from scratch; than it is to BREAK programmers from OLD HABITS.
I was not taking a swipe at a dedicated group here; bat at the programmer/group that sold the software that allows these posts.
The "board" software IS crap!
Go down to the DavidMcWrt post number 2,243 from Friday 20:55:03 hours.
Rick